A long-time reader of this blog sent me a link to a New York Times article highlighting the diverse scientific pursuits of Jesse Ausubel of Rockefeller University, among which is the exploration of the "deep carbon cycle". Although much is known about the behavior of carbon in the first seven miles or so of the earth's crust into which we routinely mine and drill for resources, relatively little is known about the flows of carbon-based compounds in the other 99.6% of earth's total volume. Increasing our knowledge in this area could have momentous implications for our long-term energy supplies, while expanding our understanding of the processes affecting climate change. It's also just plain fascinating.
Mr. Ausubel was already well-known in energy circles for his assessment of the progressive decarbonization of our energy consumption since the start of the industrial revolution and continuing into the future. Some colleagues at Texaco introduced me to his work on that subject in the mid-1990s. However, until I read the Times article I was unaware of his involvement with the Deep Carbon Observatory, an international project of the Carnegie Institution to investigate the organic and inorganic carbon cycles deep in the earth. Although this involves such esoteric questions as the disposition of the carbon content of the "planetesimals" that accreted to form the earth billions of years ago, it also has much more practical aspects, such as the origins of oil and gas. That includes both the fuels we consume and the methane and other hydrocarbons released into the environment without human intervention.
Most experts in the oil and gas industry accept the traditional Western view of these substances as fossil fuels, the remains of ancient forests and dinosaurs that have been processed into their present form by exposure to high pressures and temperatures over the course of millions of years. Although most hydrocarbons weren't formed in the reservoirs where they are found today, it's generally assumed that they were generated from organic material in sedimentary rock elsewhere and migrated until they reached the various geological structures that trapped and stored them for subsequent discovery and exploitation. The shale gas that has been the subject of so much activity and debate in the last few years is a special case, for which the source and trap are one in the same: organic-rich rock with such low porosity that the gas can't escape without assistance.
However, there's another, more controversial theory of the origins of at least some oil and gas, suggesting that they were formed by chemical or biological activity much deeper in the earth, and then migrated long distances before being trapped. If correct, that would mean that not only aren't these fuels truly fossils--and thus essentially static and finite--but that they might actually be continuously regenerated by natural processes in much shorter time spans. A number of academics appear to hold this view, and it was a common theory of petroleum origin among Soviet scientists. Much of this is explored in a lengthy white paper on the Deep Carbon Observatory site, including the shortcomings of current analytical techniques in determining definitively whether a given sample of methane originated from organic material in sedimentary rock or from some other source.
Finding gas or oil in deposits much deeper than those we already know about, or in places that aren't consistent with our present understanding of petroleum geology, would represent an even bigger potential energy revolution than the one begun by the recent development of the means of unlocking shale gas resources. It would also shift our perspective on the nature and required speed of the energy transition on which we've embarked. If oil and gas weren't finite--at least in human terms--it might alter the urgency of deploying some of the alternative energy technologies now in our repertoire. At the same time, it would have enormous implications for climate change, by greatly increasing the ultimate quantity of carbon we could eventually emit to the atmosphere.
From my reading of the material on the Deep Carbon Observatory site, it would be extraordinarily premature either to celebrate or panic--depending on one's perspective--over this prospect. The possibility of extracting useful quantities of hydrocarbons from unknown reservoirs in the deep earth remains speculative and might never come to pass. As a presenter from Shell put it in a slide deck from a conference on the subject, "Shell is not interested in drilling exploration wells into Earth's mantle in search of petroleum fluids." But despite understandable skepticism about the underlying theory of deep carbon and the failure of previous efforts to prove it, I don't see how it can be disproved without a much more detailed picture of the earth's interior than we are likely to possess for a long time.
The likelier near-term outcomes of the work of the DCO's multi-disciplinary researchers from industry, government and academia are both more benign and far less polarizing than the cornucopia of hydrocarbons it might someday uncover. Better techniques and instruments for analyzing the carbon and hydrogen isotopes in methane and other hydrocarbons could have wider application in many fields, including pharmaceuticals, while a better understanding of the physics and chemistry of the deep carbon cycle could lead to lower-cost and more widely acceptable means of sequestering the CO2 emissions from our use of "fossil fuels", regardless of their origin. I look forward to hearing about the progress of these efforts.
Are Oil and Gas Renewable?
Other Posts by Geoffrey Styles
E15's Problems Are Symptomatic of A Failing Biofuels Policy - May 22, 2012
Are Chesapeake's Problems A Red Flag For Shale Gas? - May 17, 2012
Where Gas is Already $10 per Gallon - May 9, 2012
Resources from Space? - May 4, 2012
US Natural Gas Price Nears $10 per Barrel Equivalence - April 30, 2012
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Marc Gunther said:
I, too, thought this post was going in a different direction.
I've recently been talking to some scientists and entrpreneurs who are working on captuing CO2 from the air. This CO2 could then be combined hydrogen separated from water to make hydrocarbon fuels. In theory, at least, these would be zero-carbon renewable hydrocarbons. Carbon recycling is the term some of them are using. I hope to report on this in Fortune before long.
RickEngebretson said:
This technology already exists, it is called a "tree." Similar technologies are called, "grass." Fuels produced are called, "biofuels." Several industries are involved, including "agriculture."
Geoffrey Styles said:
Rick,
The key difference lies in their concentration as energy sources. Otherwise, Mr. Ford would have stuck with fueling the Model T on ethanol, and the last century would have looked quite different.
RickEngebretson said:
Geoff, if you used chemistry instead of consumer measures, you would find the energy concentrations comparable.
The enthalpy (actually free energy, but that gets complicated) per "mole" of reaction is the measure, not BTU per gallon or pound. Of course dense aromatic carbon wins over hydrogen rich fuels per gallon. Then there's the exhaust comparison.
And I have never pushed corn fermented to ethanol as an energy technology. I have relentlessly told a deaf world that ethanol from fermented corn is a waste product from protein manufacture.
Four dollars and counting, three wars and counting. Biofuels looks good.
Geoffrey Styles said:
Marc,
I've been following some of that work and have written about in the past, though the issue of concentration that Ed highlights below is a big hurdle. 390 ppm may seem like a lot of CO2 from the standpoint of climate interactions, but it's incredibly dilute as a feedstock. Perhaps it's helplful in that regard to think of it not in ppm but in percentages: 0.039%.
Ed Reid said:
Technically, the required reactions could be used to synthesize hydrocarbons. However, both the CO2 and H2O molecules are quite stable and require significant energy to separate. The issue then becomes the efficiency of the process, which is the product of the efficiencies of each step in the process. Such processes are typically designed as continuous processes, which makes sourcing the energy required to separate the molecules from solar or wind problematic. Also, the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is only ~390 ppm, which means that a lot of air must be processed to separate meaningful quantities of CO2.
I am always cautious about using the word "impossible", but perhaps "improbable" or even "implausible" fits the bill.
Jeremy Boak said:
When Thomas Gold popularized these ideas back in the early eighties, and convinced the Swedes to drill into Precambrian rocks shattered by a meteorite impact, there were very few people who had a background in early solar system/earth history and petroleum geology. Alan Kornacki had done his dissertation on meteorites, then worked for Shell, and I had worked on the 3.8 Billion year old Isua metasediments from Greenland, then went to work for ARCO, and our graduate work at Harvard overlapped with Russ Hemley of the Carnegie Institution. I remember some exciting conversations with Russ and friends in the Geology Department.
Alan and I, once out in industry, observed the modus operandi of Professor Gold, also famous for having convinced NASA to spend millions extra on the theory that billions of years of meteorite impacts on the moon would produce 200 feet of fine dust that would swallow up the Lunar Lander, having apparently not considered the rewelding process of droplets of melted rock that made a fairly firm regolith on the lunar surface. We both agreed that, when talking to petroleum geologists, he emphasized the mysterious processes of planetary assembly and when talking to planetary folks, he emphasized petroleum geology. We disagreed in both areas, and I have been skeptical of this theory ever since. More refined techniques for carbon and hydrogen isotope characterization are not that likely to improve understanding, as the current analytical errors are smaller than the scatter produced by geologic heterogeneity. Other isotope systems may be more helpful. Most of the carbon in the crust may have come out of the mantle through volcanic degassing, and a deeper understanding of the carbon cycle from that point to recycling through subduction would be very interesting. However, the theory mantle origin of complex petroleum species has yet to pass the most valuable test the oil-finders use - has it found any oil? It still requires a lot of special pleading in the face of strong geologic and geochemical evidence that the organic rich mudstones that contain everything from solid to liquid to gaseous hydrocarbons, as well as a remarkably diverse collection of biomarker compounds indicating their origin. I am excited about the deep carbon observatory, and willing to examine more evidence on the pathways by which kerogen, the solid precursor to oil, is formed, but consider this a dark horse theory at best.
Jeremy Boak, Director, Center for Oil Shale Technology and Research, Colorado School of Mines.
Denis Pombriant said:
This post fails to answer the question it asks? Is fossil fuel renewable? The short answer is yes, but you'll be dead before you see it.
The post instead tries to answer a different question -- Is there more hydrocarbon deeper in the crust/mantle. We'd have to say maybe to that since we don't yet have the evidence. If hydrocarbon comes from living things e.g the reason it's called fossil, the answer might be no simply because there is a limit to how far fossible can be burried and the Mantle, which is solid may rule that out. Also, high temperature and pressure make a region between 7500 and 15000 feet down (roughly) the place for making petroleum -- engineers refer to this as the kitchen. Below that level, temperature and pressure are high enough to fracture long chain hydrocarbon and produce methane and other short chain molecules that are gasses.
The cost of deep drilling into the mantle has to be reflected in the cost of final product so even if there is more hydrocarbon down there, the cost will be relatively high meaning that cheaper alternatives will be needed.
Finally, another question that is not answered is the idea of having greater:
If oil and gas weren't finite--at least in human terms--it might alter the urgency of deploying some of the alternative energy technologies now in our repertoire. At the same time, it would have enormous implications for climate change, by greatly increasing the ultimate quantity of carbon we could eventually emit to the atmosphere.
This is dangerously not true. The amount of hydrocarbon available is not the important for climate change. The amount of carbon in the atmosphere is the salient point. We are at a point now where we are changing climate, if we had a infinite supply of petroleum we would not be able to burn it without turning the planet into a desert.
On the whole this post is logically flawed and appears to be shilling for the fossil fuel industry. This is not helpful.
Geoffrey Styles said:
Denis,
You're reading too much into a posting that was intended mainly to point to some interesting scientific work. I wasn't attempting to answer the questions involved, because a) doing so is beyond my training and experience and b) there don't seem to be definitive answers at this time.
Ed Reid said:
Abiogenic methane, anyone? Dr. Thomas Gold was ahead of his time. :-)
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