In an article in today's Washington Post an official of the National Wildlife Federation was quoted linking rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline with breaking our addiction to oil. Even with the administration having delayed its decision on the project until 2013--quite possibly killing it--this point merits further exploration. Just how might we go about breaking that "addiction", and when could we reasonably expect the task to be accomplished? As with everything else to do with energy, the answers to those questions must be based on facts and figures, rather than wishfulness.
The brief quote and its context imply that a decision to forgo additional supplies of oil from Canada or any other source would, by itself, move us significantly closer to breaking our addiction to oil, a rather vague phrase brought into common usage by President Bush's 2006 State of the Union address. Of course if delaying or rejecting the pipeline only results in continued or additional oil imports from other countries, that would be counterproductive from an energy security standpoint, and perhaps even from an environmental perspective. Ending our oil addiction requires more than just a real or artificial supply constraint; it calls for enormous quantities of energy from other sources, mainly for transportation, along with significant improvements in the efficiency with which we use that energy. How soon should we expect such a transformation?
Start with electric vehicles, which are essentially the only pathway by which renewable electricity sources like wind, solar and geothermal power would have any impact on our oil consumption, because less than 1% of US electricity is now generated from oil. Even if EVs turn out to be the long-term solution to our transportation needs, as I suspect, it will be many years before they can displace enough fuel demand to make a dent in our oil addiction. The current goal is to have a million EVs on the road by 2015. As ambitious as that target seems compared to current sales of less expensive hybrid cars, that would constitute just 0.4% of the 238 million cars and light trucks in the US as of 2008. Moreover, even if EVs replaced cars of only average efficiency, one million of them would displace just 31,000 barrels per day of gasoline. In other words, it would take more than 20 million EVs to save the volume of oil that the Keystone Pipeline could have delivered annually.
If we want to kick our oil habit quicker than by waiting for a hundred million EVs to turn up, we'll need an energy source that's compatible with the vast majority of existing cars, and the ones like them that will probably dominate new car sales for some time. Consider ethanol, our largest and most successful alternative energy initiative so far. Through August, ethanol accounted for 9.2% of 2011 US gasoline consumption, nearly four times its contribution in 2005. However, before we could use a lot more ethanol in our cars, in the way Brazil has, we would need to overcome some big hurdles. Raising the proportion of ethanol in gasoline above 10% creates logistical and reliability problems, and the flexible fuel vehicles that can run on nearly pure ethanol are relatively scarce. In addition, we would need to produce most of the incremental ethanol from a feedstock other than corn. With the latest disappointing crop forecast from the US Department of Agriculture, ethanol production will consume about 41% of this year's harvest. Whether or not that's already enough to cause major food vs. fuel concerns, doubling corn use for ethanol would clearly push corn prices up drastically and cause ripple effects throughout the global food economy.
The good news is that biofuels--including better fuels than ethanol--can be produced from a wide variety of non-food crops, along with their efficient production from sugar cane in the tropics. The bad news is that with the exception of cane ethanol, none of these has been demonstrated on anything close to the scale required. Two of the largest cellulosic ethanol projects under construction, POET's Emmetsburg, Iowa project and the Vero Beach, FL facility of INEOS Bio, will together be capable of supplying just 0.02% of US vehicle fuel needs. And until these plants are up and running, their owners won't know whether their economics are sufficiently favorable--even with the current $1.01 per gallon cellulosic tax credit--to provide a basis for building more and larger versions. Although some of the many competing processes for producing biofuels from non-food biomass including wood, waste, dedicated energy crops and algae look very promising, they all face major uncertainties in development and scaling-up, including the scale-up of their supply chains, and none is yet ready for prime time. That might still be the case ten years from now.
Of course there are many other fuels we could put in our cars, after some modifications, including methanol, compressed natural gas (CNG), liquefied natural gas (LNG) or possibly even ammonia. However, the production of all of these, aside from a relatively small amount of landfill gas, is currently based on fossil natural gas, and all would require major investments in infrastructure and/or vehicle fleets. For that matter, 78% of the energy content of corn ethanol comes from natural gas and other fossil fuels--it also consumes enormous quantities of water--and most of the incremental electricity consumed by the first EVs will likely be generated from gas.
Although it appears that we have ample resources of natural gas to expand its use beyond current demand, I'm not sure that's quite what environmentalists have in mind when they talk about breaking our addiction to oil. And so far we've only considered alternatives to gasoline, without factoring in the significant demand for petroleum products for moving goods by truck, train and ship, along with aviation fuels, lubricants and many other products. Together, they account for as much oil as we use in cars, with non-oil alternatives for most of them at an earlier stage than for gasoline. And while energy efficiency measures, including the substantial improvements in vehicle fuel economy that are possible on a technology-neutral basis--including shifting cars to fuel-efficient diesels--can help to reduce the size of the mountain we must climb, they can't turn it into a valley.
Taking all these considerations into account it's not realistic to imagine that we could break our addiction to oil to any great extent for at least another decade. In the interim, we should certainly pursue all options that could alter the feasibility of such a shift in the years ahead, in a manner consistent with the fiscal constraints we face. I'm also not oblivious to what that implies for greenhouse gas emissions and climate change, though I would point out that our use of oil in transportation is neither the worst emissions offender, nor the easiest high-emitting segment of the US energy economy to tackle in that time frame. In the meantime, we are committed by virtue of scale, infrastructure and fleet requirements to burn many billions of barrels of oil over the next few decades, from wherever they may come. In that light, the administration's decision on the Keystone XL pipeline could prove to be a costly misstep, no matter how much political pressure they were under to withhold approval.
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A guest says:
I've written a number of articles, reports, and scientific papers on the use of ammonia as a fuel, some dating back to 1977. I have referred in recent articles to ammonia-powered automobiles as the logical successor to the gasoholics of today. Nathan Wilson is absolutely correct on every point he has made here. The NH3 ICE will outperform any electric vehicle on every measure of value. Since comfort and convenience seem to drive the market, the NH3 alternative will appeal to the largest mass audience and will win.
The Keystone XL pipeline may represent a turning point in human history, or the hallmark of our extinction as a species if the fossils win the day. Many of our scientists know that if we cannot break our addiction to carbon, runaway global warming will overtake our planet. The tar sands deposits may hold more than 100 billion barrels of oil, perhaps as much as 600 billion. That's 60% of all the oil that has ever been burned. According to NASA's Jim Hansen, it's "game over" for the planet if Kestone is built.
The fossils claim that we gain 20,000 jobs if it's built. We, the scientists, say it's over our dead bodies.
Seven billion of them.
Nathan Wilson says:
The only transporation fuel that works with carbon capture is ammonia. The cheapest fuel to make with wind, solar, or nuclear power is ammonia (once delivery costs are included, hydrogen is impracticle). A wind farm can gather more energy per acre than a biomass farm, does not compete with food for land, and uses practically no water. A tank of ammonia holds 40% more energy than an equal volume of CNG (and several times more than high pressure hydrogen). Ammonia complements battery electric cars, since it can be used in inexpensive internal compustion engines, or in high efficiency fuel cell vehicles (to provide electric car luxury with quick refueling). It will also work fine in trucks, boats, and trains. The safe handling issue can be dealt with plausible engineering improvements to cars and fuel pumps (I'm not saying it's the right fuel for lawnmowers and chain saws). So ammonia car technology is much more important than a new pipeline in freeing us from oil.Geoffrey Styles says:
Nathan,
I recall your comments from my previous posting on ammonia as a motor fuel and your frustration with the current pathways for using electricity to power vehicles. Call it a failure of my imagination, but I just don't see putting ammonia in my car. I'm also surprised that you'd conclude that ammonia would be more practical than hydrogen. The latter certainly faces some big challenges, as I've noted in a number of postings, but at least one reason to persist with H2 and try to overcome those challenges is the big efficiency gain that you get from using it in fuel cells, which could still be a useful part of the long-term electric vehicle configuration. Ammonia into an ICE appears to offer nothing comparable. Here's a modest suggestion: Why not talk to your local planning commission and fire marshal about getting a permit to install ammonia refueling facilities at a local service station? I'd be genuinely interested to hear their reaction.
Nathan Wilson says:
There are several reasons I don't think hydrogen cars will be important:
- The Honda CNG Civic has inadequate range (200 miles AFAIR), as well as reduced cargo space. Compressed H2 would have a few times less energy; even a 100% boost in efficiency w/ H2 would not help enough.
- In the most populous parts of the country, H2 cannot be economically stored in bulk (I think in Texas they can use cavities in salt domes). Without storage, hydrogen production can't be used to smooth seasonal fluctuations in renewable power generation or grid load variation.
- Hydrogen fuel cells cars don't help cover the main market gap for battery cars: the high cost - fuel cells are likely to be just as expensive as batteries.
On the other hand, the range and cost of ammonia ICE cars will be similar to gasoline cars. And ammonia stores cheaply in large refrigerated (not cryogenic) tanks.
Efficiency-wise, fuel cells of some types run with equal efficiency with H2 or ammonia. The ones that run at 400C or above essentially use the cell's waste heat to crack the hydrogen out of the ammonia.
Ammonia ICE cars should have efficiencies similar to diesels, it's not lack of spark plugs that makes diesels efficient, it's the high compression ratio, which ammonia fuel also allows. This efficiency boost means that ammonia ICE cars have reasonable energy demands, even if the ammonia comes from natural gas.
Making ammonia from H2 is not very energy intensive, and is around 90% efficient. The energy cost is similar to pushing the H2 down a few hundred miles of pipeline, and much less than it would take to liquefy H2.
Of course I could not persuade a local service station to sell ammonia until after the sort of large scale field demonstrations which have already happened for H2 and methanol. As I've said, I'm confident that the safety problems can be address. I'm old enough to remember full-service gas stations, so of course that is always available as a last resort.
Jim Baird says:
Paul Wright describes a safe hydrogen transportation system in US Patent application 20100269498. One of the greatest knocks on hydrogen production using renwable energy I hear is the inefficiency of the electrolysis process. When you add another step using the hydrogen to produce NH3 the logic escapes me. Nonetheless some very intelligent people, whose opinions I otherwise greatly respect, remain staunch NH3 advocates.
Rick Engebretson says:
Geoff, being the rare gentleman you are, dduggerbiocepts was right to speak here to what has become off topic on TEC: "Green Technology."
The pipelines, nukes, batteries, taxes, windmills, and malcontents certainly have their say. And "biofuels" are misrepresented by a protein manufacturing technology, corn sugar-fermentation.
With all the Iran politics, I would like to add to the Bonn2011 "Food, Water, Energy Nexus" agenda the topic of peace (given that the debt crisis is hopeless). The roots of "Green."
And thanks for your effort networking your great perspectives.
Amelia Timbers says:
Rick, greentech and cleantech are very on topic for TEC. We cover these issues- as well as related issues such as 'innovation', government funding of R+D/ cleantech, as well as climate/energy/economy/startups very frequently. I am confused by what the above statement refers to.
Rick Engebretson says:
Amelia, please see his web site;
http://www.biocepts.com/BCI/Home.html
Instead of Geoff, an oil expert, keeping discussion alive, perhaps you could invite a post from him. He obviously wants to say something, but Geoff is the only poster courteous enough to put in an effort. The US has the largest coastline on the planet. I don't know the guy, but he sounds like some fresh insight from the "Green" world.
I got an ad from Radio Shack pushing a microcontroller programming contest on the Arduino $34 board. I can't imagine anybody here (except Nathan Wilson) knows why that is related to hybrid cars, smart grid, solar tracking, or any automation.
I believe Bob Dylan said in his song, "Tangled Up in Blue," ; "Then he started talking about slavery and something inside of him died." There is great opportunity out there, I just wish this board would reflect it.
Thomas Garven says:
I believe the title of this story is really appropriate and it is very well written. The only problem I see is that is was not discussed on the evening news. So many dedicated individuals are making wonderful contributions HOWEVER their work goes mostly unnoticed by the media which is truly sad.
Until we begin to have some serious discussions regarding energy I fear little will change. While this pipeline might be important from the oil industry perspective - For the most part I could care less. A pipeline can be built and operated safely and we have been doing this for over 100 years. That is not the REAL problem is it?
In my opinion the XL pipeline is about:
1. Getting Canada's oil sands oil to the Gulf Coast so it can be sold on the world market.
2. The pipeline has nothing to do with energy independence for America.
There are so many other questions I see unanswered.
1. If Canada would like to sell the U.S. more oil - why not just build a small refinery in Canada and send us the refined product?
2. If we want to take further advantage of the shale oil in North Dakota why not build a refinery there and refine both the Canadian oil and the North Dakota oil at that point?
3. Why on earth as a country do we want more oil in the Gulf of Mexico? Haven't we learned our lesson that building stuff behind levies that fail is not very smart?
No I think there is much more to this story than just our need for another pipeline. Besides isn't it our strategy to reduce our use of oil as quickly as we can? Oh wait we don't really have a strategy do we. We don't have any goals or measurable objectives do we? We just limp along spending money on renewable energy for 4 years just to have it all eliminated with the stroke of a pen for the next 4 years.
We need serious discussion about battery technology. We need serious discussion about using Compressed Natural Gas [CNG] for our trucking fleet. We need to get serious about pricing fuel at it's real cost and stop subsidizing oil. We need to stop the tax credits for electric vehicles. In my opinion, what we should have done is begun with the use of hydraulic hybrid technology which only raises the price of a car $1500. GM, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai and other are all coming on line with electric and/or hybrid vehicles but sales are almost nonexistent. With the exception of the Prius and we don't sell enough of them to make a serious contribution to energy use and/or efficiency. We need to be selling MILLIONS of hybrids not a few hundred thousand. Even if every [100%] of all new cars sold were electric it would take us 30-40 to change out our fleet of vehicles and no one is buying them because they cost too much.
Sorry for the long posting.
Geoffrey Styles says:
Tom,
It would take some time to answer all your questions in detail. The short answer is that the refining capacity required to turn the extra oil sands crude and shale oil into products isn't small; it's large, complicated and expensive, and if built where you suggest it would dwarf the regional market need for products, creating a much more challenging logistics problem than shipping the crude to refineries that are already plugged into a well-established distribution network and markets. As for exports, work through the logic of why it would make sense to ship oil sands crude out of Gulf ports while those same ports are importing millions of barrels per day from elsewhere. I'm sure some would be exported from time to time, but mainly you'd see imports from elsewhere fall.
A guest says:
"The good news is that biofuels--including better fuels than ethanol--can be produced from a wide variety of non-food crops, along with their efficient production from sugar cane in the tropics."
While I agree that we need the pipeline, the author is clearly not informed that all biofuel production is dependent on NPK fertilizers (dependent on the confluence of peak petroleum and peak phosphate used in NPK) - same as 95% go global food production. All at scale biofuel production - including algae, at scales large enough to have an impact on our foreign oil consumption are dependent on NPK fertilizers and they all compete directly with food crops for those fertilizers. Sugar cane being especially completive with food for NPK fertilizers.
Scientist extimated in 2008 that we had 300 years of geologic (cheap) phosphates in our global reserves. In 2011, they are now saying it looks like all the economically feasible mined phosphate sources could be depleted in as little as 50 years. Currently there are no technologies that allow the replacement of geologic phosphates at the quantities needed to support the human population just for food. The natural phosphorus replenishment cycle would support less than 2 billion people - as it did in the late 1800s before we discovered NPK and had cheap petroelum, cheap mined phosphates and the resulting "Green Revolution" that drove our population to the current 7 billion.
Given these limitations in non-renewable food resources and the relatively short time tables before their shortages impact our food supplies, what is it about using our food resources for fuel - that seems to make such a great energy strategy? How can anyone profess to be some kind of "energy expert" and not understand these basic facts?
Geoffrey Styles says:
Competing for some inputs--even a key input like phosphorus--is different than competing directly with the outputs of agriculture like corn, wheat and soy. Nor was it my intention to offer biofuels as a panacea. We won't know where all the bottlenecks are until we get further down that path, as we have with corn ethanol.
You're also mistaken that the N (nitrogen) in NPK fertilizers depends on "peak petroleum." It comes from ammonia produced by the Haber process, which was discovered before WWI. Key input: natural gas, of which we have no shortage nor are likely ever to have, assuming we can figure out how to safely tap methane hydrates someday. Peak phosphorus may be every bit as dire a problem as you portray it, or it may be amenable to recycling and other solutions, as Rick suggests. I tend to be skeptical about peak-anything turning out quite as badly as extrapolation of the status quo would indicate.
Rick Engebretson says:
Geoff, the phosphate situation is that dire, but not as dire as 30 years ago when I learned there was only 30 years worth.
Cargill just sold their public company "Mosaic" (a phosphate mining effort mostly in Florida) to again become fully private. Then they announced purchase of iron mining waste (free crushed rock), and I'm speculating they are getting phosphorus from that, since the steel industry hates it.
Everything isn't hopeless, but nothing is easy. I hope dduggerbiocepts stays with TEC.
A guest says:
While we may well have more phosphates than current inventories suggest and I agree that the Hubbert peaks have stretched like a rubber band, again estimated phosphate reserves have dropped from 300 years to 50 years and that is over a 4 year period of scientist re-studying the "known" reserves. You might also note the tendency for phosphate deposits to be laced with with heavy metals and radioactive contaminants - so that just because you might see large areas of phosphate minerals in an area, it doesn'tmean they are necessarily useable - sufficiently concentrated, safe, or economical to mine.
I agree that if you consider N alone, our ability to produce it will last much longer than our geologic phosphates. However, you are incorrect thinking we have an abundance of natural gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_gas) looks like we'll run out of natural gas about the same time we've used all of our geologic phosphates.
I want to emphasize the point on the realtionshp between peak petroleum and peak phosphate. The price of natural gas - has been steadily climbing in recent years as the rest of the world switches to it, not to mention the cost sharing relationship natural gas has with oil. When we run out of oil - the cost of natural gas production will have to take on all the full drilling/production costs it now generally shares with oil field development and become significantly higher. It's this confluence between petroleum and phosphates that determines the price of NPK. As well the concentrations of geologic phosphates that can be effectively mined. As the price of fuel goes up, the amount of useable/economically feasible phopshpates goes down. Unlike oil there are a lot of reasons our estimates for peak phosphates could be overstated, not under.
I've already pointed out that recyling is a band aid solution for phosphorus - especially while the global population continues to grow. I have also pointed out as yet, after more than 40 years of research no one has come close (including my company) to a economically feasible process to concentrate natural phosphorus such that it can be dropped into the NPK dependency we have - and certainly not in a similar economy. Given this lack of phosphorus recapture research success, I think in the best case we can expect food to be the number one economic cost in our childrens future existence. Of course, if various nations around the world decide they want to keep their reserves of critical commodities like natural gas and phosphates - all of our reserve estimates and our economies go out the window.
Nothing lives without adequate phosphorus and I think ultimately peak phosphates and our food production dependency on it are going to far over shadow peak oils significance, and we are being naive in not understanding the interrelationships between peak petroleum and peak phosphate - and perhaps suicidally so.
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Geoffrey Styles says:
Thanks for the additional insights re phosphorus. As for natural gas, I suggest you need to review your assumptions on resources and pricing in light of recent developments. In particular: 1. The price of natural gas has largely decoupled from the price of crude oil, at least in the US, with gas currently selling at a wellhead price equivalent to about $22/bbl. Even when you look several years out on the futures market, it's less than $40/bbl-equiv. 2. Most US gas production is now from non-associated fields, i.e. produced by itself, not with crude oil, as indicated in EIA data. (The net figures are even more skewed, because much of the gross production from oil wells is reinjected to maintain reservoir pressures.) The ratio of non-associated to associated will likely grow even larger as the proportion of shale gas production increases. So your whole train of logic liking oil and gas needs revisiting.
A guest says:
New gas discoveries (Wikipedia - "Peak Gas."
According to David L. Goodstein, the worldwide rate of discovery peaked around 1960 and has been declining ever since.[4] Exxon Mobil Vice President, Harry J. Longwell places the peak of global gas discovery around 1970 and has observed a sharp decline in natural gas discovery rates since then.[5] The rate of discovery has fallen below the rate of consumption in 1980.[4] The gap has been widening ever since. Declining gas discovery rates foreshadow future production decline rates because gas production can only follow gas discoveries.
Dr. Anthony Hayward CCMI, chief executive of BP stated in October 2009 that proven natural gas reserves around the world have risen to 1.2 trillion barrels (190 km3) of oil equivalent, enough for >>>>60 years' supply if consumption is non-increasing,<<<<< and that gas reserves are trending upward.[6] A similar situation exists with oil reserves in that they have increased despite the actual declines of worldwide discoveries for decades and despite increases in consumption, although industry veterans such as BP’s former Chief Petroleum Engineer Jeremy Gilbert, have suggested that this growth of oil reserves "results largely from distortions created by the..reporting rules of the US Securities and Exchange Commission" and that "even this illusory growth is unlikely to last."[7]
Geoffrey Styles says:
I would note that it's not sufficient to look only at initial discoveries; what really counts is the ongoing reserve revisions and extensions associated with those resources--mainly upward--as development work increases knowledge of the formations. In any case, even looking at just the lower resource estimate from USGS for the Marcellus, the discoveries in the decade 2001-2010 due to shale gas technology would exceed the upper scale limit on the Wikipedia chart you linked.
I'm afraid it's not practical to address all the issues around Peak Oil or Peak Gas in the comment thread of one posting that wasn't even focused on that issue. However, whatever notional date one might have put on a peak in gas production a few years ago, that estimate must have been shifted significantly into the future by the new resources unlocked by shale drilling techniques.
Rick Engebretson says:
dduggerbiocepts, you have a very nice web site devoted to aquaculture in Florida. And you are certainly right about the phosphates problem, much of which comes from Florida is shipped to Minnesota and ends up in the Gulf. But you are wrong to jump on others without at least a little discussion.
Fertilizer recycling must be greatly improved. The nitrogen fixing legumes of old (like clover and alfalfa) need to be used in hay crop rotation as they once were. One problem is the new herbicide resistant GMO crops providing current yields. I've seen concern about GMO alfalfa. This is a complex area of bio-science as important as you say.
And I will also endorse your aquaculture focus. Ocean agriculture is a new 3D agriculture frontier.
I'm just doing my part in Minnesota, watching forests and fields grow faster and change, with huge areas in the Dakotas and Canada emerging from the tundra. And I worry about the uncontrolled fires we've seen in the west happening here.
As for "using our food resources for fuel" I'm not aware of anybody here advocating that. If you are pointing at the corn ethanol industry, perhaps you could see the good side by realizing they are growing yeast organisms as balanced feed from sugar. The ethanol is a byproduct. We all have byproducts.
A guest says:
Hi Rick,
Thanks for the compliment on the web site.You make some good points, but I worry that the magnitude, the significance or the urgency of our food production problem is underestimated. We actually work all over the world and have been food producers for the past 40 years. Our ISRAS system is a recycling system. Unfortuantely recyling is asymtotic - you lose some nutrients every pass of the system - that you will not be able to recover. Consequently recycling is not an adequate answer to our coming food production problems - only slowing some demand for NPK. Recycling only extends the time until we run out of cheap geologic phosphates - some scientist say in as little as 50 years. That estimate, may not accurately include demand growth from increased life expectancey, a proposed huge biofuel industry, developing nations around the world who are converting from manure to NPK fertilizers to support their growing and more affluent populations' demands. Without geologic phosphates, we are currently 5 billion people beyond our demonstrated food production abilities within the natural phosphorus replenishment cycle. By the time we scrape the bottom of the useable geologic phosphate "barrel" our population will likely be 5 times beyond our natural food production abilities. Of course this assumes that we don't have any huge fossil fuel price spikes which make lower concentrations of geologic phosphates unfeasibile.
My concern is that we have used the majority of the worlds fossil fuels and geologic phosphates in less than a hundred years - actually most of it in the last 50 years our rate of demand growth climbs steadily - while actual supply and time to the ends of our geologic phosphate supply decline. Perhaps you can see that sugar cane or corn for ethanol (both high NPK users) - uses NPK the same as food crops and thereby shortening any chance we have to arrive at an techno/economical process for concentrating and collecting phosphorus in sufficient quantities to replace our declining geologic phosphates. This is not an easy techno/economic problem to solve and though the general public are completely oblivious to the problem, researchers have been attempting to resolve it in a serious way for over 40 years - and still haven't.
We're like a bus running out of fuel, not knowing if there is a filling station anywhere down the road we are on, but we continue take on passengers without knowing if we can get them to their destination - and with our increasing load of people, we're shortening the time until we run out of "fuel". With a real bus of course you can always get out an walk, but that is not an option when we run out of food production ability. To put it mildly developing a biofuel industry - isn't just uninformed and illogical, it's insane.
Speaking of yeasts and bi-products I'll leave you with a more a description of yeast - and humans perhaps more relevant given our current behaviors.
"Humans are fundamentally no different than yeast. We will consume all our resources and die in our own excrement - given the opportunity."
Bytesmiths - from a message board.
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Rick Engebretson says:
From what I read, the decision was to find a pipeline route that avoids the Nebraska aquifer. So I agree with the decision, and don't think it will be a serious delay.
On the alternative fuels front, I'm much more enthused. I mentioned the recycled plastic livestock septic tank proposal of 1987 for methane and fertilizer. The other one was to grow hay crops, extract the nutrients, and use the cellulose for fuel and create black dirt. Both work in the new global agenda. And yes, we've discussed solar thermal processing. And when asked how to separate nutrient from cellulose I've described how a cow chews.
Personally, the US renewable energy crowd never fooled me as scientists. But I am shocked how dangerous they are to our national security.
Geoffrey Styles says:
Rick,
From what I read, Keystone had previously submitted a route that bypassed the aquifer and the sand hills. Moreover, if the administration were truly focused on enhancing both energy security and the environment, it had 2 years in which to work with TransCanada and the Canadian govt. to agree on a pipeline route satisfactory to all actual stakeholders, while devising a suitable mechanism for mitigating the extra emissions inherent in the oil sands production and processing. The non-decision increases the likelihood that the additional oil sands output will go to a market that is much less concerned about environmental impact.
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